Flagship phones are not worth the price - #TechDebate | Pocketnow

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Are premium smartphones still worth the higher costs? Welcome to a proper debate on this topic, where YOU the viewer will deliver the verdict. Jaime and Juan debate the pros and cons of high end smartphones, and you decide in a viewer poll who was more persuasive. This is the first of several Pocketnow #TechDebate videos planned, so help us out with a share, suggest some topics in the comments below, and make sure you vote in that viewer poll!

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Flagship phones are not worth the price – #TechDebate | Pocketnow


Author Since: Sep 20, 2018

  1. I agree that mid range offer better value. Like for me, I stop buying a phone every year since the s7, why? Too much money for little improvements and Samsung edge screen. Plus paying more than 500 is a no for me.

  2. Let me just say this. Is the Galaxy s whatever number they are on now 3-4x better than the Moto g6? I'd say that's a resounding no. Sure the camera might not be as good or it may not look as pretty but I don't buy a phone as a status symbol.

  3. Buying last years flagship is the smartest choice. I bought the 2017 LG G6 4/64 GB QuadDAC version for 411 $ over the 2018 400$ Nokia 7 Plus, here in India, I got so much more.

  4. I love this debate. What I am noticing is that the top flagships are quickly becoming mid-range because tech is moving so fast. Both sides of this debate have excellent points and great positions, but arguably you can simply wait and get an amazing flagship within a few years time, though it would be considered "mid-range" by the time you get it. Look at the LG V20, for example. At its initial release in September 2016, the V20 was about $820 (based on where you purchased it), but now in May 2018, you can look online and brand new V20s are running for about $220 and that is just after a year and a half of time. And you get some great value with the V20 with decent specs, although not as high as the top tier stuff now because of that technology advancement that I referenced earlier. Meanwhile, some top flagship phones (like the iPhone X) have amazing features, but if you drop that sucker on the ground with a case or some type of protection, you have to shell out about $500 just to get a glass panel replaced. Only you can decide if a phone is worth the features that it offers based upon your own wallet and what you want out of your smartphone / phablet experience, and that just comes down to personal preference. 🙂

  5. I think the greatest deal is buying previous flagships used. You do have plenty of issues with that. With one of the phones I purchased, it got a bad IMEI over time. Though getting an S7 Edge, a phone that will probably be good still for a couple of years, for around $250 used is very much worth it, and you are getting a whole package.

  6. I agree with Juan tremendously but I feel that Jaime also has a point, and while I agree immensely with Jaime's point, it crashes as Juan delivers his point. Do you notice any pattern here? Right, it's a tug of war between two very logical points. But I think the real game ender here is not what our opinions are as regards how tech progresses (or regresses). It's really more about the money isn't it? I mean, are you seriously telling me that Apple is doing their tech business out of altruistic intentions, for the betterment of mankind per se? As far as I know, all businessmen and industrialists are schmucks (forgive the language), they're all in it for the profit, even grab the shirt from your back by telling you how great their product is.

    I've had a sense of this fact when Samsung started their mid-price range products which showed more mediocrity based on their own standards, as opposed to those products they market as "premium" or flagship. I don't think it's a matter of tech becoming more and more expensive as developments and new ideas arise. I think it's more of the old human nature coming into play where the haves should have the best and the have nots are left with not much choice. It would have been Eutopian to think that these profit oriented companies would make expensive and ingenious tech accessible to the proletariat class who lead a more pedestrian lifestyle just as they manufacture those mouth-watering, eye-popping products for those who can clearly afford it.

    Bottom line is, the whole argument should revolve around class economics and which one is better and able to fuel the greed of these businessmen running those tech companies, eventually arriving at the conclusion that tech industries don't cater to altruism. but to profit alone. With these in mind, we can all understand better why there are such things as "premium products" (and why they exist in such a state of mediocrity) and "mid-range products". Let's not be coy about this reality friends, let's just lay it on the table as it is.

  7. Number 1. Until very recently my opinion would have been very different but I have been watching videos about the Honor Note 8 and a couple of other similar devices and I had no idea they were so feature-packed. I was thinking the 3500 battery on the S 9+ was wonderful until I saw a mid-range with 4500! Those phones were gorgeous and seemed to have basically all the features of the higher end phones.

    The argument in support of the video's premise just made me believe even more that the flagship devices are way overcharging and are selling their name more than the device. Loved the video, guys.

  8. I was convinced about the midrange argument offering the best value. However the point about without top tier smart phones pushing inovasion which does cost we wouldn't have the next generation of mid range phones which have yesterday's top tier tech, but often have to compromise on camera or screen or waterproofing. I think the best thing is to have options which is what keeps the market fluid and competitive and prevents Monopoly… Even Google who now produce top tier phones share their software with the android one program which is the right democratic thing to do rather than not allow like Apple

  9. They are too expensive for sure, but I still want to be there for the unveiling and to see the latest innovations. I'll always go for a flagship purely because it brings me joy

  10. I saw a video that is between the speed test between Huawei mate 10 lite and Samsung s8 soo that mate 10 lite can still fight with the s8 that has a big price difference and the time difference was only few seconds.

  11. $400 is my limit for spending in a phone. Of course not any phone will do, it has to be rootable and have a healthy community and have decent specs. It doesn't have to be a device released this year, most times you get better value from a 2 year old flagship than from a current low/mid range device of the same price. Truth is not much has changed in 4 years. Antutu and other benchmarks artificially make newer devices score disproportionately high, but in terms of real computing power there's not much improvement. Screens remain around the same size and resolution (1440p 5.5'' has been there for 3 years now), cameras have not improved much in terms of hardware either, all that changes is the design. That's why companies provide such short support for their devices' updates, to force people upgrading totally viable hardware. However if your device has a community of developers, you can buy a slightly older flagship and get 95% of the experience for 50% of the price.

  12. I didn’t even think this was a point of contention any more. Of course flagships are a waste of money! That’s the point! These are status symbols now; nothing more.

  13. This was good. Really good. At least these guys are forced to look at the other side of the discussion, unlike some other tech sites or tech reviewers. This should be a thing. Because of this, I followed you both on Twitter. Because this was again, great. More of this needs to happen.

  14. Very good video I love the format. Will always be a market for more expensive products in any category. The best value is always something like the Honda Accord versus the BMW 5 Series

  15. I have no problem spending more money on flagships for (at least) the following reasons:

    – You often get better software and hardware support. Compare Apple to Oneplus and you'll see what I mean.
    – You get the best overall phone. Sure you can get a "good" camera from one brand, and "good" audio from another, and "good" performance" from a third, but I want the best in a single device.
    – I can easily go 2-3 years on a single flagship because it is future proof. Mid range phones are behind the curve to start and are considerably behind after 1-2 years. Buying 2-3 mid range phones instead of 1 flagship isn't a good option.
    – Accessories for flagships are far more common than for mid-range phones from brands like OnePlus.